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Deanna Moody
36:35
I was considering telehealth with instructor as patient for Ther Ex. Has anyone tried that?
Barbara J Behrens
36:37
IPE s an acronym for what?
Christina Howard
36:50
Interprofessional education
Anne Reicherter
37:01
IPE is Interprofessional Education
Daigle, Laurie
37:32
I did a telehealth assessment for a complex patient - part of the time I was the instructor asking questions related to the conditions part I was the patient. It worked quite well.
Brenda Henoch
39:33
It was hard to see if the patient was in the correct plane of movement and if student was paying attention to that
Kevin Parcetich
39:55
also lots of practice before submission
Kevin Parcetich
40:22
*if not live (whoops!)
Brenda Henoch
41:26
Yes, a good side benefit
kirsten snellenburg
42:25
how much time do you get for go react?
Kevin Parcetich
42:29
yes, flipgrid free and microsoft or google account work best
Holly
42:34
@KD that is SOME MASK!
apaul8
42:36
Is there a limit on YouTube?
Brenda Henoch
42:39
FlipGrid just increased video time to 10 min
kirsten snellenburg
42:58
no limit with you tube
jenniferreft
43:10
Youtube is 10 minutes I think
Brenda Henoch
43:39
no limit on YouTube but takes a bit of time to upload
KD Berrey
43:40
Thanks Holly! That is from my bathroom remodel a couple of years ago!
Brenda Henoch
44:38
You have to have a verified YouTube account to have a longer recording. Getting verified is quick and easy with an email address.
Daigle, Laurie
45:02
The challenge with this scenario is the equipment.
apaul8
45:22
We could just use zoom if we are assessing live
ksavage
45:31
I don't have a good visual on the patient's legs
jenniferreft
45:50
also YouTube is easier to use/share if they make it unlisted-this means it does not show up in searches
Renee Huth
45:56
Home health practice!
kirsten snellenburg
46:07
video camera angle
Loraine Frey
46:26
Equipment would be needed at home
Penny Ralston-Berg
46:35
we always need to be careful when using new software. is it approved by risk management for use by students?
Renee Huth
46:53
agreed, home health still has limits of lack of equip
Holly
46:59
Yes. Do they loan out the equipment?
bruk2121
48:25
They have significant time to prepare for a check that could be random in scenarios
Kevin Parcetich
48:26
students have rubrics ahead of time?
Renee Huth
48:44
Could you share your rubrics?
Holly
48:46
@Kevin: we give them to the students well in aadvance
Kevin Parcetich
48:55
thanks holly
Kimberly.Novak
49:20
If recording than students are you getting signed off from the school for legal reasons?
Kimberly.Novak
49:28
other than students
ksavage
49:35
how can you simulate accurately if the patient was to fall? I often play the patient in parallel bars and stress good blocking of the knees.
Kevin Parcetich
49:37
is this prep or actually graded as final
bruk2121
49:42
some of our students are having trouble with uploading videos
Kimberly.Novak
49:56
sorry LOL
DASHLEY4
49:58
The transfer that you just showed looked to be in a lab. At this time our campus is closeed until further notice. How do you expect students to have access to beds, walkers, W/C etc. outside of the campus lab?
jenniferreft
50:02
Yes my students have had uploading issues as well
Daigle, Laurie
51:16
We use a product called Studio, which is imbedded in Canvas.
Holly
52:12
plus they could record. grade themselves and keep submitting until they get it p erfect
Sara Bogner
52:38
Are any of your schools discontinuing the use of Zoom due to the recent security issues and FBI warnings?
Aileen Paez
53:13
Yes, we are no longer allowed to use zoom
Daigle, Laurie
53:19
Just heard about that possibility, Sara. Ugh.
Sara Bogner
53:27
What are you using instead?
Aileen Paez
53:48
Big blue button on CANVAS
cristinaechevarria
54:25
Meet from google
Jan Haas
54:53
Microsoft Teams
Holly
55:47
can we make sure the link to the recording is posted on the FB page. I wasn't able to get in to this session using the link for this session. I had to use the link to last week's session. Some other people were unable to get in. Thank you.
rgura
55:51
We use either Collaborate or WebEx
Jennifer Jewell
56:53
The link is the same every week. You can also click the title on the APTE COVID 19 page and it will bring you directly to the zoom room.
jenniferreft
56:54
The link on the Education website did not work either, I had to use last week’s as well
cammenti
57:44
We've had students fill a long sleeved shirt and pants with towels in order to simulate a patient. Had a student walk me through a posterior glide to hip joint for a case study.
Patricia's
57:47
so CAPTE permits videos of student practicals?
DASHLEY4
59:24
How do you make certain that your students are not cheating when doing a virtual class assignment or lab practical?
Holly
59:27
very cool!!
Jessica Niski
01:00:20
SimuCase is developing web based PT simulated patient case simulations and they plan to release this summer.
apaul8
01:00:47
@Patricia - Per my understanding, CAPTE's last guideline said face-to-face for all labs and practicals, but I have heard schools doing all kinds of online ways to doing practicals, not sure if that is ok with CAPTE
jenniferreft
01:01:36
there was a second CAPTE response where they allowed non-face to face work
KD Berrey
01:01:47
CAPTE"s latest allowed some flexibility for instructors to determine what had to be F2F and what could be done via distance
Jessica Niski
01:01:52
Here's the most recent CAPTE response: http://www.capteonline.org/uploadedFiles/CAPTEorg/Homepage/CAPTEResponsetoCOVID19.pdf
cristinaechevarria
01:01:53
We are using video demonstration for labs concepts, but we are planning a PTA Bootcamp to asses the labs skills face-to-face later
DASHLEY4
01:02:08
Yes CAPTE's last guideline did say face to face was necessary for lab and practicals so I am not sure if this would be in compliance.
Kimberly.Novak
01:02:38
Has anyone been using the apps on the phone or tablet for ROM
Amy Cornell
01:03:31
There is a CAPTE zoom meeting here this Thursday.
apaul8
01:04:14
@Jessica, thanks for the update
JODI
01:04:45
What time is the CAPTE zoom meeting? Same link?
Loraine Frey
01:05:08
Same time, same link
raffen
01:05:09
5 pm est
Jennifer Jewell
01:05:09
same link every webinar; 5 pm Thursday for CAPTE
DASHLEY4
01:06:38
That is 5 pm EST
Renee Huth
01:07:26
skills assessment f 2 f; what % remote?
Moto E (4) Plus
01:07:51
75% remote. hi Renee!
cvaccarino
01:08:29
CAPTE does not dictate skills check being face to face
Renee Huth
01:09:01
Thanks Moto!
Michelle Kujawa
01:10:18
I had to use last week's link to join today also. Can you please send out the link again via the listserve. Thanks!
Jennifer Jewell
01:10:41
The link is the same every week. Thanks!
JODI
01:10:45
Thank you !
Niki Wallen
01:11:33
Are there statistics out there related to licensure pass rates and virtual labs, skill checks, etc.
DASHLEY4
01:12:47
what kind of feedback do you get from your clinical instructors when students have had a clsss with a virtual clinical assessment?
Sara Bogner
01:12:55
I don't know of any statistics, but when you consider that non of the NPTE is in a practical format, it would seem that the virtual labs wouldn't effect test results. But good question. I'd like to know the answer as well.
KD Berrey
01:13:07
What about interacting with real patients? I believe there are nursing studies that show with all the simulations and manikin assessments have difficulty then working with real patients/hands on
DASHLEY4
01:13:56
Yes, I have seen the same studies in nursing instruction
Christina Howard
01:14:10
How can we get the reference list?
Renee Huth
01:14:12
great info
Holly
01:14:22
Yes. Thank you!!
Dorice Ross
01:14:23
Thank you Leona! Great info!
ksavage
01:14:32
Yes, great presentation. much appreciated!
Kevin Parcetich
01:14:34
Thank you, Well done!
Tony Brenneke
01:14:37
Thanks! It was very helpful!
apaul8
01:14:41
Thanks!
Kimberly.Novak
01:14:41
thank you very much
Arlene Garcia
01:14:45
Appreciate you sharing this info Thank you
Michele Avery
01:14:46
Thank you Leona!
cristinaechevarria
01:14:47
Is there PTA simulation cases on youtube??
Marangela Prysiazny
01:15:04
Thank you Leona! It was very helpful!
Regina Brown
01:15:05
Thank you!!! Some very good information.
sprocket
01:15:09
It was a great presentation. I have learned a few things that will be useful
Udi E
01:15:22
Thank you Leona! Very useful points and considerations.
Gina Tarud
01:15:37
Thank you so much!!!
Renee Huth
01:15:40
first clinicals vs. last?
Diane Roadarmel
01:15:44
Thanks Leona - great job! Diane
Renee Huth
01:15:58
Thank you
Holly
01:16:30
can we have Ms. Hidalgo's email? I also teach modalities
Kim
01:16:39
Thank you Leona!
jenniferreft
01:16:40
Can you say something about how you have the students use blackboard collaborate-I use it but I’ve never had students record on it. Do you set up a room for everybody or what?
Deanna Smith
01:17:05
Manual therapy considerations?
KD Berrey
01:17:11
Thank you so much for sharing your expertise!
Holly
01:17:16
I simulated traction with dog leashes, towels , etc...
lhidalgo
01:17:22
hidalgo@usa.edu
Jacki Kopack
01:18:10
Thank you! Very informative!
Amy Cornell
01:18:18
Does Canvas have anything similar to the Blackboard Collaborate?
cvaccarino
01:18:36
We are using zoom directly through canvas
Hanlon-SPC
01:18:37
thank you!
Jacky Kent
01:18:50
tape for electrodes?
Kimberly.Novak
01:18:52
canvas should let you record
audreycampbell
01:18:56
If you record it do you grade later?
Kimberly.Novak
01:18:58
big blue button
Daigle, Laurie
01:19:10
our Canvas also has a Collaborations feature - I haven't used it though
Jacky Kent
01:19:15
big blue button can be live as well
Patricia's
01:19:48
thank you! great info!
jenniferreft
01:19:49
I’ve been happy with blackboard collaborate as well
Holly
01:20:06
could use post it notest for electrodes
Amy Cornell
01:20:29
Thanks!
Arlene Garcia
01:20:45
Exactly how much time for LP prep?
Jacky Kent
01:20:50
Thanks
Deanna Moody
01:22:39
Anyone have ideas of where to get more cases?
Mariely
01:22:49
Great info! Thanks
Arlene Garcia
01:23:19
Thank you Yes
cvaccarino
01:23:42
Thank you very much. Very helpful
Sara Bogner
01:24:00
What is the google doc? I'd like to access this. Thanks
jenniferreft
01:24:03
How do you access the slack site?
Holly
01:24:04
slack site!
kciku
01:24:06
any blow back with different raters grading ? Are all the instructors teaching the same course?
Amy Cornell
01:24:08
How could we access Slack site?
cristinaechevarria
01:24:08
Where I can access the google doc??
Loraine Frey
01:24:13
What is the slack site?
Kevin Parcetich
01:24:17
ditto, I will contribute
Sara Bogner
01:24:39
Thanks I'm on the FB page. I didn't realize there's a google doc.
jenniferreft
01:24:44
the neuro section has a google classroom where people are collaborating on class stuff
Holly
01:25:23
Slack site is ptaeducatorso-43z6950
Gail
01:25:40
Thank you Leona! Awesome presentation! Gail Padrino
Holly
01:25:47
Yes. I might need to manually add new peeps
lhidalgo
01:26:12
Thank you everyone.
Daigle, Laurie
01:26:31
Thank you for hosting these sessions. Lots of food for thought.
Amy Cornell
01:26:32
Thank you!
Jana Marogil
01:26:45
Will the recording of last weeks zoom presentation be posted.
Linda Mercer
01:26:48
Thank you, much appreciated!
Loraine Frey
01:26:55
Thank you for these awesome sessions!
Sara Bogner
01:27:01
You can also put the nine digit code into Zoom to join and don't need the link. It's the nine digits at the end of the link.
Jana Marogil
01:27:01
OK, thank you!
Sherry Fadel
01:27:02
Thank you! I appreciate the information.
bruk2121
01:27:12
Thank you for the suggestions!
cristinaechevarria
01:27:29
what is a slack site??
Amanda Heilman
01:27:37
Thank you! Great presentation!
KD Berrey
01:27:39
This is awesome!
Mr. Pinzon
01:27:39
thank you
Sam Allen
01:27:40
thank you!!!
raffen
01:27:40
Such a helpful topic! Thanks.
Deanna Smith
01:27:41
Thanks so much! That was great :)
Holly
01:27:43
slack site allows people to share ideas and other items
Barbara J Behrens
01:27:45
Thank you for presenting this for us! It's very timely and important to all of us!
Sara Bogner
01:27:47
Thanks!
Ritzel Hidalgo
01:27:50
Thank you
Marangela Prysiazny
01:27:56
Thank you!!!