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Current State of PTA Education: A Discussion with the Task Force - Shared screen with speaker view
Becky McKnight
03:08
I'm going to try again. Be right back
Kathrine Giffin
21:01
How many on the call have seen the report?
Laurie Daigle
21:13
I have read it
Del Carr
21:18
I have
Dr Cynthia Vaccarino, PTA Program Director
21:26
I have as well
Chris Hausbeck
21:32
I have
BARRETTC
21:32
I have
Tracey Williams
21:34
I have
Anna Marie Prado
21:34
I have
Carolyn Shisler
21:34
I have read it
Lori Hurtak
21:41
I have
Karen Morey
22:11
I have
Karen Abboud
24:35
I have not, I'm sorry! I was able to join last minute but did not have time to prepare and read it. :(
Kathrine Giffin
25:47
No worries Karen, hopefully you'll be intrigued enough to check it out after our time together today.
Karen Abboud
26:48
Absolutely Kathy! :) I served on the PTA Caucus for the past 9 years, so I'm familiar with some of these task forces, I just haven't read through the whole report!
Bridget
30:22
I have
Jeannine Mendes
43:12
I attended the CSM session on this topic in February and re-read it today.
Chris Hausbeck
01:06:22
In the survey, did the task force look to see if there were any statistical differences in answers from the program directors who are physical therapists compared to the program directors who are physical therapist assistants? If not I am wondering what the results from our peers who are physical therapist assistants (and PTA faculty members) would be.
Carolyn Shisler
01:07:15
For the survey results, did you look at the credits required at different schools? In OH we are limited to 65 degrees between gen ed courses and PTA courses but I know other programs are significantly higher in other states. It is a crazy workload for students to get everything done in 65 credits.
RENEE L BORROMEO
01:07:29
We seem to have a good bit of support from the Academy, but I worry that we don't have broad support from the larger APTA. Do we have ideas about how to get more support from clinicians and employers?
BARRETTC
01:09:52
I believe it is an issue with the Higher Learning Commission that limits AAS degrees to 65 credits.
Sharon Reid
01:10:20
Do we have any information about employers who hire entry level PTA’s. Are they dissatisfied with their preparatin
Chris Hausbeck
01:10:30
Also, how can we get involved to update the documents for PTA educators on the APTA website? I would like to help with this.
Sam
01:11:33
Ohio has been stringent in their 65 our limit for health science programs, 60 for general liberal studies.
Carolyn Shisler
01:14:06
How will the information from APTE and ELP be shared to the PTA Programs?
Carey Weatherspoon
01:15:10
We have been doing activities/seminars with the DPT program in our school and that seems to help with the awareness of the SPT of the PTA role, value and education level.
patricia brady
01:15:12
did you breakout institutions can/can not confer BS in the study with the thinking that PDs are protecting their jobs vs thinking what is best for the PTAs
Anne Reicherter
01:15:22
You're welcome
Sharon Reid
01:15:25
Is there any data regarding patient care improvement that would be seen as a result of a move to the BS. Or current issues with patient care
Sam
01:19:42
I wish that Susan Cotterman could have been on the call-the Provo Program found 35+ gaps in their entry level program and their community standard of the operational PTA, building a continuation program... Is this being considered?
Jon Waxham
01:20:47
Do you have concerns supporting the position for more Bachelor's level degrees will provide further impetus to reduce reimbursement for PTAs with Associate's degrees?
Karen Abboud
01:23:52
We (Clarkson College) developed a BS PTA degree completion program and took into account data obtained from student surveys, advisory board input, information from task force reports. We looked at gaps in education and created advance PTA courses (not more gen ed), which I think should be considered if programs look at offering a BS PTA degree. We are a private institution. I would be happy to chat further with anyone who wants more information!
Becky McKnight
01:24:37
Same for us old B.S. PTs.
jenniferreft
01:25:17
They will not get more money but they will get more debt.
Sharon Reid
01:25:49
Do any other allied health programs have a choice of a associates or Bachelors
Carolyn Shisler
01:26:08
Respiratory Care can be associates or bachelors
Sam
01:27:03
Magnet hospitals want only the BS-RN for their needs.
Sharon Reid
01:28:30
Since they already have a degree, they may already have debt and they are not eligible for more federal moneies
Sam
01:29:38
If they hit their lifetime limit on federal monies, then they are not eligible for state Pell grants or fed. loans, only private loans or scholarships.
Becky McKnight
01:29:41
Sharon, true. My point is we can not assume we KNOW any of this and make those assumptions lead out decision making.
Sam
01:33:50
Signing off now-thanks for all of your diligent efforts on behalf of the PTA. It was great to see long time friends-Becky, Kathy, etc.
Chris Hausbeck
01:35:17
Thank you for your work!!
Carolyn Shisler
01:35:36
Thank you for all your work on this. It is greatly appreciated.
Chris Hausbeck
01:35:37
Delta College in Michigan :)
Karen Morey
01:35:49
Thank you, Task Force
Carolyn Shisler
01:39:24
I have spoken with Brad and he is doing amazing things.
Anna Marie Prado
01:41:10
Thank you!
Sue Bravard
01:41:12
Thank you to the Task Force! This work is very important and appreciated!