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Round Table Discussion with the filmmaker Viviane Candas - Shared screen with speaker view
E
01:19:07
Effectivement, si la citoyenneté n’est pas reconnue, les revendications identitaires submergent, on le voit avec les mouvements Traoré, Fatou Diagne, Amandine Gaye etc.
E
01:19:43
On l’a déjà vu avec la marche pour l’égalité avec les descendants d’immigrés
E
01:22:48
Racial issues have always been a sensitive topic..
E
01:24:04
Especially in US rather than France..
Katelyn Elizabeth Conroe
01:26:54
I am from a very small town and racism is still very much a real thing. Very few have any form of acceptance. It's very sad.
E
01:28:10
Where are you from Elizabeth?
chandler
01:28:33
In America minority groups have been fighting for hundreds of years for representation. In the past couple of decades it seems that the US has taken some of its biggest steps in integration and representation. Do you think that the use of the internet has helped people get their voices heard? Has the use of social media helped progress the movements in France in a major way?
Katelyn Elizabeth Conroe
01:31:31
I grew up in a Wattsburg, Pennsylvania. There is very little people there let alone who are not white and Christian and have had many generations living in America
E
01:33:05
If diversity is non existent in a town, fear of the Other is pretty common.
E
01:33:53
Yes , similar problems in France and US
Katelyn Elizabeth Conroe
01:33:59
Correct it is very true. I witnessed it throughout my childhood. I did not meet a first or second generation immigrant until I was around 18 years old.
E
01:35:06
They are both multicultural societies , more mixed communities in France but problem remain the same: discrimination, exclusion, spatial segregation, police violence etc
Emily Pollard
01:38:22
How can we take steps living in the U.S. to become less ignorant and accepting of other cultures? In this country, we are conditioned to believe we have a superiority complex over other cultures and ethnicities which blinds some individuals open-minded tendencies. How can we collectively become more aware/accepting of others' beliefs?
E
01:39:18
Bhabha: in between space :)
Martin Carrion
01:41:06
Responding to Emily: I think that education can place a very important role in learning to be not only tolerant but also less prejudice.
E
01:41:55
Yes Martin but most of all family discourse has a huge impact on beliefs
E
01:42:14
Without mentioning politics of course
Martin Carrion
01:42:35
No doubt, but if one person in the family breaks the cycle there is hope for the future.
E
01:43:02
That needs to support more diversity groups etc
Martin Carrion
01:43:24
Study Abroad can do a lot too Emily. Being able to live outside your country and look at one
Martin Carrion
01:43:38
one's society can play a role too
Isabella Stone
01:43:39
Yeah, so Emily, this is a very nationalistic view that we grew up with. Basically, a lot of this “US Superiority Complex” comes from patriotism disguised as what is really this idea of an ethno-romantic nationalistic “organic society” which breeds this (frankly dangerous) “us vs. them” mentality. If we want to stop perpetuating this we need to practice consciously looking into educating ourselves on a global level. We grew up learning that we were this great super power, when in reality, if you look at the global network, we aren’t. Essentially we have to force ourselves to remember that we are not the center of the universe and the rest of this planet does exist and is very relevant. Like Martin and E said, it is an individual effort, but the individual can have a great impact on the group
E
01:43:50
Yes, definitely travels but not a lot of ppl can afford
E
01:44:17
Or even don’t have the desire to do so
emily wood
01:44:31
I also think so, I think this is why the younger generations are so much more accepting. But we still have a generation that is so against immigration. This is why I drive similarities to the cities in France because they are also are dealing with the same issues as we are.
Katelyn Elizabeth Conroe
01:46:42
Absolutely!
Madeline Olivia DeRocco
01:46:56
Racism is absolutely a learned behavior
Madeline Olivia DeRocco
01:47:14
100% can be prevented
E
01:47:16
Good point Evans
emily wood
01:47:29
100% and its sad to see people our age that still have these ideals
Martin Carrion
01:47:48
Good point. I think the root of course is in pre-judgement
Katelyn Elizabeth Conroe
01:47:57
@madeline True. If anything, its probably takes more work nowadays to "teach" kids to be rasist
Madeline Olivia DeRocco
01:48:06
Absolutely
E
01:48:41
Political discourse medias definitely influence and US as the first world economy definitely impacts other countries
Madeline Olivia DeRocco
01:48:42
Especially since media has become more sensitive to diversity and such issues that you sort of have to go out of your way to find material that still expresses these negative viewpoints
Madeline Olivia DeRocco
01:49:13
Racism or any other issue separating someone from another is a choice
Katelyn Elizabeth Conroe
01:49:42
Its kind of like guns. In America, the more people try to take it away or control it, the more it grows
Zak Teyssier
01:50:00
I don't think its the same idea
Katelyn Elizabeth Conroe
01:50:25
In my hometown it seems to be the same
Zak Teyssier
01:50:30
But I see what you are saying
E
01:51:24
France still uses “foreign” athletes to fight for France :0
E
01:51:47
They fought because they had the promise of gaining their independance
Martin Carrion
01:51:50
E, that is a good point.
E
01:53:09
Same in US. They American/ French where they earn a game but this disappear and become “just “ black/ “bougnoule” after the euphoria
Martin Carrion
01:56:00
OMG I saw that clip that was incredible
E
01:56:02
Yes, oppressed people fight against other oppressed like in Vietnam and big names such as Muhammed Ali resisted that and himself claimed that he won’t fight oprpressed
Martin Carrion
01:56:18
what does it take to be an "American" who defines this
Madeline Olivia DeRocco
01:56:25
exactly
E
01:56:43
that the real Oppressor is the white American
Katelyn Elizabeth Conroe
01:57:05
In the US, I looked it up from the diversity.defense.gov (a government website) there is 63% of the enlisted military is white and 78% of the officers are white too.
Madeline Olivia DeRocco
01:57:07
The citizenship test that we make people take is ridiculous. Half of actually American citizens couldn’t even pass it
E
01:57:29
Yes, same test in France I believe
E
01:57:50
I think they removed the language test in order to have a carte de sejour